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Name: llyonmd
Date: November 14, 2007 at 10:25:57 Pacific
Subject: can't see router, NIC settings
OS: sbs 2003
CPU/Ram: 2 ghz/1 gb
Manufacturer/Model: AMD Barton
Comment:

i can't see the router from anywhere on the LAN; i have to log off the network from one of my workstations, then log on to the local computer, then change to a different subnet. once i do that, i can log onto the router.
what gives?
i'm also having another (of many) problems-- one of my workstations locks up when connected to the network.
what are the appropriate settings for the NIC's?

llyonmd


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Response Number 1
Name: Curt R
Date: November 14, 2007 at 12:27:35 Pacific
Reply:

Questions:

- What make/model of router is this?
- Is the router on a different subnet from the PC's?
- Give us an example of your network:
ie:
- Router IP info (IP, DNS, gateway, Subnet Mask, etc):
- PC Subnet (DHCP/Static, IP range, subnet mask, gateway, DNS, etc)


In most cases, you leave the NIC settings to automatic (ie: speed/duplex etc) and either use a static IP you assign, or set it to DHCP. Don't forget to test any/all cables between the PC and the switch to ensure they're all working properly. If the problem persists, it may be a back NIC.


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Response Number 2
Name: wanderer
Date: November 14, 2007 at 12:27:44 Pacific
Reply:

What gives? Your lan is in a different ip subnet than the router.

start by posting the results of a ipconfig when connected to the router and when not.

Usual setting for nics is auto. why do you think its a nic setting that is crashing the pc?

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Response Number 3
Name: llyonmd
Date: November 14, 2007 at 18:25:37 Pacific
Reply:

i have two nics in the server, the external (wan) nic is connected to the router, a dlink 4100. i have a static ip address, which is entered into the router, along with the primary and secondary dns's, provided by my isp. dhcp is disabled on the router, and is provided by the server, by using the internal (lan) nic. the external subnet is 255.255.255.0. the internal subnet is 255.255.0.0.
the internal nic's address is 192.168.16.2, and i have excluded it's address, along with two of the four workstations, which require static ip's, from the dhcp scope.
there are actually four conundrums i'm facing:
first is that i cannot connect to the router from the network; when i type in the local address of the router, i can't find it; only when i log out of the network can i log into the router.
second is that i typically use gotomypc to connect to my workstation; since the presence of the network, but even before i connected my workstation to the sbs network, i have been getting an intermittent connection with gotomypc, in spite of testing the connection using the gotomypc dialog box and using their connection optimization wizard.
third is i am quite frankly confused by the all the different settings for the nic's; i've tried jumbo frames even though the size of the packets of information is probably not jumbo; additionally i'm not sure how many of the services i should have running under tcp/ip properties. currently i have qos packet scheduler, tcp/ip, client for microsoft networks, and file and print sharing. do i need any others, or all of the above?
fourth, when i use remote web workplace, the connection is verrrrrrrry slow. i have fast access at home, and fiberoptic connection at work.
i have never had such slow as molasses connection before.
please let me know if additional information is needed.
thanks in advance.


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: November 15, 2007 at 08:47:53 Pacific
Reply:

In MS DNS is the forwarders tab populated with the isps dns servers ips?

Leave the nic properties alone. Jumbo frames are for fiber/atm. Just leave this area at its defaults.

Might try setting the wan subnet [ip subnet of the internet facing nic to the router] in AD Sites and Services. Not sure but I think this will address your not being able to access the router while logged into the network.

your dhcp scope, it lists for gateway the server lan nic not the routers ip, correct?

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